Episode 5: Are we learning the wrong lessons from leaders? Ulysses S. Grant: an interview with Joe Byerly

Joe Byerly is an officer in the U.S. Army with over 16 years of experience in combat and training environments and a Non-Resident Fellow with the Modern War Institute. He’s also the founder and biggest contributor to From The Green Notebook.

Walk into any organization in our Army and there is one thing you are guaranteed to find on a desk or in a cargo pocket: a small, green, government-issued notebook. “It’s where you capture your thoughts; it’s a great source of knowledge that we each individually have,” Joe says. “The idea with the blog is to create a place where we can collectively share those ideas.” Since 2013, the blog has transformed into a leadership and self-development resource for military leaders and professionals.

In this short interview, Charley Thornton talks with Joe about one military leader who has frequently been misunderstood in modern history, Ulysses S. Grant. Most of us know him as the civil war hero and a two-term president, but what many people don’t know is his backstory and struggles with alcohol. Charley says, “We remember where they got, but we don’t always remember the rough journey that they took.”

In their conversation, Joe and Charley discuss the #1 New York Times bestseller, Grant, by Ron Chernow.

Chernow is one of the first to provide a complete understanding of the general and president whose fortunes rose and fell with dizzying speed and frequency. Through this lens, Charlie and Joe shed new light on the man Walt Whitman described as “nothing heroic… and yet the greatest hero.”

Tune in for a fascinating conversation on one of our most compelling generals and presidents, Ulysses S. Grant.

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